Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Fox News' Bret Baier Craps On the Constitutional "Natural Born Citizen" Requirement for President

Bret explains "natural born citizen" requirements for president and vice president

Posted by Katy Ricalde @ Fox News

Here's the deal...

Many legal analysts and scholars agree with this take-- and until the Supreme Court weighs in.. this is how the law is interpreted:

The Constitution requires that the president be a "natural born citizen," but does not define the term. That job is left to federal law, in 8 U.S. Code, Section 1401. All the law requires is that the mother be an American citizen who has lived in the U.S. for five years or more, at least two of those years after the age of 14. If the mother fits those criteria, the child is a U.S. citizen at birth, regardless of the father's nationality.

The brouhaha over President Obama's birth certificate -- has revealed a widespread ignorance of some of the basics of American citizenship. The Constitution, of course, requires that a president be a "natural born citizen," but the Founding Fathers did not define the term, and it appears few people know what it means.

The law lists several categories of people who are considered American citizens at birth. There are the people born inside the United States; no question there. There are the people who are born outside the United States to parents who are both citizens, provided one of them has lived in the U.S. for any period of time. There are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is a U.S. national (that is, from an outlying possession of the U.S.), provided the citizen parent has lived in the United States or its possessions for at least one year prior to the birth of the child. And then there are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is an alien, provided the citizen parent lived in the United States or its possessions for at least five years, two of them after the age of 14.

They're all natural born U.S. citizens. That also includes people who are born in Puerto Rico and people who were born in states before they became states. Born in Hawaii in 1950, a decade before statehood? You're a natural born U.S. citizen.

That is how legal experts interpret the "natural born" requirement.. and how you get that status is actually pretty open. Until the Supreme Court weighs in on this issue (and there are no plans that we know of that that will happen)... -- to your emails... Senator Marco Rubio and Governor Bobby Jindal are both eligible to run and become Vice President or President.

SOURCE: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/blog/2012/05/01/bret-explains-natural-born-citizen-requirements-president-and-vice-president

Note to Katy and Bret: The United States Constitution is not a Dictionary. The Fourteenth Amendment did not amend Article II nor did it change what a "natural born Citizen" is. Nor does the 14th even mention "natural born Citizen" in it.

Supreme Court Cases that Cite “Natural Born Citizen” as One Born on U.S. Soil to Citizen Parents


  • Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

  • Shanks v DuPont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

  • Dred Scott v Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

  • Minor v Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

  • United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

  • Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

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A Harvard educated attorney and 30-year constitutional scholar explains below what a natural born Citizen is.

Herbert W. Titus is of counsel to the law firm of William J. Olson, P.C. Prior to his association with this firm, Mr. Titus taught constitutional law, common law, and other subjects for nearly 30 years at five different American Bar Association approved law schools. From 1986 to 1993, he served as the founding Dean of the College of Law and Government in Regent University, Virginia Beach, Virginia. Prior to his academic career, he served as a Trial Attorney and a Special Assistant United States Attorney with the United States Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. and Kansas City, Missouri. Today he is engaged in a general practice with a concentration in constitutional strategy, litigation, and appeals.

Mr. Titus holds the J.D. degree (cum laude) from Harvard and the B.S. degree in Political Science from the University of Oregon from which he graduated Phi Beta Kappa. He is an active member of the bar of Virginia and an inactive member of the bar of Oregon. He is admitted to practice before the United States Supreme Court, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, the United States Court of Claims, and the United States Courts of Appeals for the Sixth, Seventh, Ninth, Tenth, District of Columbia and Federal Circuits. His constitutional practice has taken him into federal district courts in Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Montana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Wyoming, and the District of Columbia and the state courts of Idaho, Texas and North Dakota.



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There are three types of citizenship in the United States:

1.   Naturalized Citizen – Born in another country of foreign parents, and completed the naturalization process –
Naturalized Citizens can hold any elected office except President or Vice President.
Example: Former Governor Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger who was born in Austria of Austrian parents and become a Naturalized Citizen.

2.   Native Born Citizen – Born in the United States of foreign parents –
Native Born Citizens can hold any elected office except
 Vice President or President.
Example one:  Senator Marco Rubio was born in the United States, but his parents were not citizens of the United States at the time of his birth.  
Example two: So called “anchor babies” who are born in the United States and are thus citizens of the United States, but whose parents are not citizens of the United States.

3.   Natural Born Citizen – A Natural Born Citizen is a "second generation American citizen."  They are the natural offspring of citizen parents, and the history of the Constitutional phrase Natural Born Citizen emphasizes a citizen father.
Only two elected offices have the constitutional requirement of "Natural Born Citizen;" President and Vice President.  
Example:  Citizens born in the United States to two American citizen parents are Natural Born – Both George Bush and Bill Clinton are Natural Born Citizen

2 comments:

Dansmith said...

Hi Sam,
As far as I know, The INNA of 1986 was not retroactive. Obama was born August 04, 1961, so the residency requirement of "ten years, including 5 after the age of 14" applies. Obama's mother was only age 18 when he was born. Shy by 3 months.
.......Dan Smith, NY

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf
[see page 17]
7 FAM 1133.2-2 Original Provisions and Amendments to Section 301
(CT:CON-317; 12-08-2009)
a. Section 301 as Effective on December 24, 1952: When enacted in 1952, section 301 required a U.S. citizen married to an alien to have been physically present in the United States for ten years, including five after reaching the age of fourteen, to transmit citizenship to foreign-born children. The ten-year transmission requirement remained in effect from 12:01 a.m. EDT December 24, 1952, through midnight November 13, 1986, and still is applicable to persons born during that period. As originally enacted, section 301(a)(7) stated: Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.

[See page 18]
e. November 14, 1986, Liberalization of Transmission Requirements: Section 12 of the Immigration and Nationality Act Amendments of 1986 (INAA) (Public Law 99-653 of November 14, 1986, 100 Stat. 3657) changed the parental citizenship transmission requirements from ten years of U.S. physical presence, five of which were after the age of 14, to five years of U.S. physical presence, two of which were after age 14. These provisions apply only to persons born on or after November 14, 1986.

"NICE TRY" BRET........How about reading "Minor vs Happersett" or Resolution 511 or John Jay, etc.

Minor v. Happersett – Proof Obama is Unlawful President
http://obamaballotchallenge.com/minor-v-happersett-proof-obama-is-unlawful-president

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts…..”

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/minorvhapp.html

This is precedent on meaning of NATURAL Born Citizen. This Minor v. Happersett has NEVER been overruled.

Barack Hussein Obama claims the Barack Hussein Obama Sr. as his birth father. His father was a British citizen from Kenya and never became a U.S. citizen.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/minor-v-happersett-is-binding-precedent-as-to-the-constitutional-definition-of-a-natural-born-citizen/
Obama/? is not a "natural born Citizen" if his father was Obama Sr. who was never a u.s. citizen....Dan, NY

Constitutional.Reset said...

8USC1401 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
says nothing about A1S1C5 "Natural Born Citizen" just "born citizen" by action of law.